Gabrielle Giffords Shot At Arizona Safeway During Public Event.
Along with 5-6 others, 11 wounded.
http://www.google.com/search?sourcei...giffords+shopt http://www.google.com/search?sourcei...+giffords+shot |
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This is so sad. What did she do that was so bad. I have heard her name but don't really know anything about her.
I am wondering if the shooter was apprended. How useless. |
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Giffords won her seat in a close race with a TEA party candidate last year. She was supposedly a pro-gun congressmember, but not highly regarded by the NRA. Likewise, she was stated as a pro border control member, but not at all highly regarded within hard liner groups because she voted against the border fence, and was not overly sympathetic after the killing of Roger Krantz near his ranch |
Here is a link to her Wikipedia page:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gabrielle_Giffords She seems pretty conservative for a democrat. There are only two things that I see that might draw gunfire. She's Jewish and she voted to fund stem cell research: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gabriel...epresentatives Quote:
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These are some links to the shooter and his videos. The left is trying very hard to link this to the Teaparty and the right. But what he appears to be is more of an anarchist, the ANSWER type, but time will tell. He's a real nut!
http://www.youtube.com/user/Classitu.../0/3L1lsLU-kUw http://www.youtube.com/user/Classitup10#p/u http://www.youtube.com/user/Starhitshnaz |
If I had to listen to that music in the first video I might go out and kill people too. It is totally nerve racking.
Thanks for the video. Fox reported very early that all his postings had been taken down. |
The media is already doing their spin. On CBS news they interviewed only Democrats and pounded in the left perspective. Of course they can justify it by saying it was a Democratic politician, but that's not why they're doing it. On ABC news they had a spokesperson in Tucson doing a typical "progressive" stance on this. This situation is a great vehicle for trying to guilt anyone into not speaking their mind.
The shooter was a nutjob. But that will get lost in all the spin both sides will use. The media started the spin right out of the gate. |
watching the local news here in San Diego, the dooshbag Bob Filner is blaming the Tea Party and republicans.....he is so full of crap....
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Her report card
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http://www.numbersusa.com/content/my...rtcard/RECENT/ She certainly doesn't have very many "passing grades". My guess would be, at this time, that her career as a Congresswoman is probably over. Sheriff Clarence Dupnik has been seen and heard many times on TV spouting the typical liberal diatribe. I concluded, early on, same as other posters here, that the Democrats and Liberals would make an effort to smear the opposition and hang a guilt trip on them. However, I also think that the current administration has done more to antagonize the citizens, infuriate them and really raise a huge amount of resentment. Read more: Assassin's politics lean 'left wing, quite liberal' http://www.wnd.com/?pageId=248829#ixzz1AYPBJqlC Our political system is replete with assassins: There have been multiple assassination attempts and plots on Presidents of the United States; there have been over 20 known attempts to kill sitting and former Presidents as well as Presidents-elect. Four attempts have resulted in sitting Presidents being killed: Abraham Lincoln (the 16th President), James A. Garfield (the 20th President), William McKinley (the 25th President) and John F. Kennedy (the 35th President). Two other Presidents were injured in attempted assassinations: former President Theodore Roosevelt, and then sitting President Ronald Reagan. Although attempts have been made to prove that most American assassinations were politically motivated actions, carried out by rational men,[1] not all such assassinations and attempts have been undertaken for truly political reasons.[2] Some have been perpetrated by people of questionable mental stability, and a few were judged legally insane.[3][4] Since the successor to the presidency, the Vice President of the United States, usually is of the same political party as the President, the assassination of the President is unlikely to result in major policy changes. This may explain why political groups headed by rational leaders typically do not make such attacks.[5] Contents [hide] 1 Assassinations 1.1 Abraham Lincoln 1.2 James A. Garfield 1.3 William McKinley 1.4 John F. Kennedy 2 Attempted assassinations 2.1 Andrew Jackson 2.2 Abraham Lincoln 2.3 Theodore Roosevelt 2.4 Franklin D. Roosevelt 2.5 Harry S Truman 2.6 John F. Kennedy 2.7 Richard Nixon 2.8 Gerald Ford 2.8.1 First assassination attempt 2.8.2 Second assassination attempt 2.9 Ronald Reagan 2.10 George H. W. Bush 2.11 Bill Clinton 2.12 George W. Bush 2.13 Barack Obama 3 Presidential deaths rumored to be assassinations 3.1 Zachary Taylor 3.2 Warren G. Harding 4 See also 5 Notes , and more - John Lennon, and others. Then there is also Squeaky Frohm, Timothy McVeigh *( Oklahoma ), David Koresh *( Waco ), Randy Weaver, *( Ruby Ridge ), Native Americans at *( Wounded Knee ). But I agree entirely with John Boehner, That is NOT the American way *( But it is the way of Homo Sapiens, all through history ). I'm not surprised that it happened. The red flags were going up all over the place. In 2009 Judge John M. Roll, *( also shot and killed Saturday 01-08-2010 ), ruled that the case Vicente v. Barnett could go forward. The $32 million lawsuit brought by the Mexican American Legal Defense and Education Fund (MALDEF) against Arizona rancher Roger Barnett on behalf of 16 Mexican plaintiffs charged that the plaintiffs were assaulted, threatened, and held at gunpoint by Barnett and members of his family. After Roll's ruling and prompted by several talk-radio programs, he was the subject of hundreds of complaining phone calls and death threats and he and his family were under the protection of the U.S. Marshals Service for a month.[3][4][5] Roll declined to press charges when some of those who made threats were identified.[6] >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Addendum: New E-mail: ATTACK IN ARIZONA Assassin's politics lean 'left wing, quite liberal' 'Communist Manifesto,' 'Mein Kampf,' listed as alleged gunman's favorite reads -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Posted: January 08, 2011 5:22 pm Eastern By Aaron Klein © 2011 WorldNetDaily "The Communist Manifesto" and Hitler's "Mein Kampf" were among the favorite reading materials of Jared Lee Loughner, the suspected gunman in today's fatal shooting that reportedly left six dead and gravely injured a U.S. congresswoman. Lougher, 22, listed those tomes among his favorites on his YouTube channel, in which he wrote that "conscience dreams" were a "great study" at his college, Pima Community College. Understand what's happening to America's culture and what you can do to fight it with "How Evil Works," autographed, from the WND Superstore. One user on Twitter, Caitie Parker, wrote she went to high school, college and was in a band with the gunman. She said she hadn't seen him since 2007. Parker wrote of Lougher, "As I knew him he was left wing, quite liberal and oddly obsessed with the 2012 prophecy." She also described him as "more left." Lougher also left a trail of bold political statements. On his now deleted MySpace page, Lougher wrote a series of disjointed rants, including: "If there's no flag in the Constitution, then the flag in the film is unknown. There's no flag in the Constitution. Therefore, the flag in the film is unknown. Burn every new and old flag that you see. Burn your flag!" "I bet you can imagine this in your mind with a faster speed. Watch this protest in reverse! Ask the local police, 'What's your illegal activity on duty?'" "If you protest the government, then there's a new government from protesting. There's not a new government from protesting. Thus, you aren't protesting the government." Three months ago, Lougher made a YouTube video in which he proclaimed, "I know you're illiterate! This is the greatest protest for exposure into a wrongful act. The school is breaking the Constitution. If you watch the video then you'll understand. The teachers are taking advantage of you in the First and Fifth Amendment. The United States Constitution, which is the law, can be broken at this school." With research by Brenda J. Elliott |
If anyone wants to point fingers, we should include Giffords herself. In a time when people are obliged to suffer groping at airports in the name of national security, we have an elected official forming groups on the street discussing politics. Is this really a current security standard for our elected officials? Wasn't this an accident just waiting to happen? Would the Obamination have been stupid enough to perform the same stunt on regular recurring basis?
Mein Kampf is not a left wing work, it is a work of the right. Hitler is best characterized as being right wing, not left. He identified himself and so did the Nazis as being right wing. They claimed traditional family values and uncompromising opposition to communism. Their "socialism" was a vague prop intended to attract working class Germans of like mind who might otherwise have been weak in opposing the communists and unionists. They never were anything like socialists and pointing this out does nothing to flatter socialism. So this assassin had a fascination for extreme politics in general. Notice this crackpot also was a gold standard fan. It is more correct to identify him as disoriented, and pointless to make it out as a left wing attack. |
What's wrong with the gold standard? It prevented the government from printing money at will.
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The curious thing here is that Arizona is a "right to carry loaded" gun state, but with all the people in the area of a busy supermarket, either nobody was armed or felt strong enough to gun down the killer before he could gun down all those people. Go figure |
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The unabomber did not target public officials, and the unabomber was very fussy about targets and all his targets never imagined themselves to be in the public eye. No comparison, really. It is just absurd to describe being in congress as not a dangerous job. All of our national elected officials have some sort of security protocols and some sort of security details to protect them on the job. This is not the first time somebody in congress has been threatened by some citizen. |
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Why is there no discussion anywhere about security measures that must have been in place when she did these little routine presentations? These were regular events that she held. Loughner stood in line with questions that he had as a part of a ruse to get close. Not only that, but it was the second time, at least, he had shown up. He had actually had a question the last time he came. Certainly security was screening these people as they lined up. Anyone will tell you, when you go to some public event featuring a national elected official, there is always some security presence there. They keep a low profile so as not to be intimidating, but they are visible. And that's no accident. It's very strange. As Brown assumes the governor's seat, there was at least one article in the Bee explaining Brown's downtown residence in extreme detail and with schematics. Why would they do this? I imagine that these displays and incidents are to create foment within the security establishment by waving targets in front of the public's face knowing that there is an element out there all too willing to take the bait. These incidents provoke a fake debate within the security establishment in order to create measures to protect our enemies (immigrant elements, illegal and otherwise, for example) and provoke hostility and intimidation against innocent citizens by falsly posing them as potential aggressors and assassins. |
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