Most young Latinos U.S.-born, feel labeled as immigrants, study finds
Most young Latinos U.S.-born, feel labeled as immigrants, study finds
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When someone is open about their self identification and loyalty to another country, there is nothing wrong with classifying them as immigrant. The only other classification would be alien and disloyal American. Would they prefer that?
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Good point Kathy.
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This report has been out a couple weeks now
It is the reason these whelps marched with mexican flags , they don't understand the concept of America They will never be American They should all be deported with their illegal parents Sooner or later its going to get ugly |
How about labeling them as "Pseudo Citizens?" That's a way better description than "immigrants" who found their "road" to U.S. citizenship via the vagina of an illegal alien. We need to quit giving REAL immigrants a bad name by mixing them in with the criminals who break our immigration laws and the anchor babies they spawn.
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I generally don't agree with the Pee-Yoo Hispanic Center, and I further believe Olson is biased due to his slanted education. Yet I placed this here as food for thought and I do believe there are elements in it which are correct.
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However, while not a scientific survey and it's only been a month, I have recently gone out of my way to take every opportunity to listen to junior high and high school Brown kids in Van Nuys (where white is definitely a minority), and was surprised to hear most of them doing their thing amongst each other in English. I've heard more Spanglish in San Bernardino. On the other hand, I have noticed quite a few Mexican Nationals who speak a sufficient degree of English to conduct business try to get the white English speaker to speak Spanish, or have the Mexican National accompanying the English speaker or a child relay and conduct the business between them. It's pissed me off on several occasions at the way it was done, no respect. On the other hand, something which blew me away was one occasion I witnessed school kids doing their homework while speaking English in their Mexican parent's small business, and the parents weren't fluent in English by any means. It's my belief that most Mexican parents tell their children to speak Spanish in the home and around them. I've only seen this before in Asian businesses. **** Since the 60's, it's been a race based numbers game. Affirmative Action. Scholarships. Representation. Voting. The open borders people are counting on prejudicing those who can vote, hire, or do anything else beneficial for another person. 42% of people 16 to 25 in California are brown and the majority of those who are citizens will be eligible to vote in two years. And the number is going to be bigger five years down the road. I believe that many who are not the immediate descendants of illegal immigrants do not have sympathy for illegal migration - illegals beat them out of work just like they do white people. But the open borders crowd harp non stop about real, imagined, or invented "white racism" in order to turn whites into dehumanized oppressors of brown people. So, my conclusion is that if the stand against illegal immigration is actually or widely perceived to be a stand concerning race rather than willful illegality, the battle is over. We can rightfully bitch about bullshit political correctness all we want, but it's not going to make any difference if we shovel ammunition to our enemies. For what it's worth. |
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Just Monday I was at a house getting some applications completed where the mother who was about 8 months pregnant and her two older sons were there to interpret. I tried to tell her the process would take about two months, but instead of saying months I said 'more' is Spanish because they both are similar sounding. One of the sons corrected me, to which I replied that I didn't really care I'm an American and I don't speak Spanish. He then told me I should because there are so many who do living here. I then told him that if I were to move to Mexico or Spain I would learn Spanish, but I don't plan on moving there. I might also add that this family had both parents and were getting Medical, foodstamps and WIC. This doesn't include the $2,000 a month in education the taxpayers are paying already to educate the two they already had. If they couldn't get by with having two kids, why did they feel it was ok to have another. How many people have you talked to who have said, we can't afford to have any more kids, and so they don't. That's what's called being responsible for your actions, and caring about what you do. |
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Then the thing that always ruins Christmas for me are all the TOY drives and food donations. The lead based Chinese toys should not even be in this country, Give them a BOOK, and I don't mean a comic book. I believe in helping the needy, those who lost a job through no fault of their own, illness in the family, the home destroyed by fire. All this free hand out merely makes them expect to get what ever they need or want FREE, all you have to do is collect a bunch of kids and stand in a line. If I sound harsh blame it on the churches, Toys for Tots, The Fire Dept toy drive etc. I could go on and on. How long do those toys last and don't you know China is happy? Have a Merry Christmas! |
I just came back from the store , needed Coffee
In front of me were 2 different groups of latinas , Both had a hoard of anchors , neither spoke English and BOTH had WIC cards This is sad |
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The maid didn't understand a word of the English. However, the owner was from India, and speaks at least two languages not native to India - English and Spanish. Not long ago, I worked with a Mexican who's been here for twenty years, the last ten working almost exclusively with English speakers: he's just now getting around to the idea that he needs to take some English as a second language classes. I asked Elena how this could be - at least he should have picked up more English through osmosis. Her reply was that for all those years he didn't want to. |
One of the points I was trying to make is that not everyone is the same person.
If someone is here without entering permissively through a legal point of entry deport them, regardless of their country of origin. However, if everyone who has a brown skin and a Spanish last name is dumped into the same bag with illegal welfare cheats and illegal job stealers as well as gang bangers and trash scatterers, I believe the anti illegal immigration cause is lost. For what it's worth. |
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Well , when I came back here I am still the same person and will not mince PC words. If you don't like it , ban be
bottom line , you don't see the Irish, or Russians or Canadians to any large degree marching with their national flags demanding amnesty , special laws , special rules or anything else All I see demanding these things are brown hispanics Am I wrong here? I see hispanics carrying mexican flags , not Irish carrying Irelands flag I see hundreds of advocacy groups like la raza , maldef , mecha demanding rights for HISPANICS , On a personal level I see hundreds of spanish speakers using American benefits like food stamps , wic , and others on a daily basis I live in a town that is spending multiple millions of dollars for dialysis care , post and pre natal and other medical services payed by taxpayer going to illegal aliens. Maybe I'm just getting old and crochity by in my book this isn't right Our military vets are getting screwed our elderly are eating dog food our schoos are a joke our neighborhoods are turning into 3rd world slums Time to call um as ya see um If it doesn't measure up to the kumbyeya PC crowd , feel free to ban me I have other homes. |
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Our illegal immigration problem is not a strictly Mexican problem. ... and the Indians, and the middle easterners -- Pakistani, Persian whatever you got, the Chinese. And if you look in other countries, the same problem has a completely different face. In England it is not just the Middle Eaterners, there are Poles, Lithuanians. Anyplace you have a country that is not allowed, for some reason, to police against people being inside the country who have no permission to be there. |
In England the problem isn't illegal immigration but immigration because the Poles and Lithuanians are there legally courtesy of European Union agreements.
The problem isn't illegal immigration. It's immigration. It is a failure to become Americans, failure to become English and in France it's legal immigrants' failure to become French. |
I wouldn't describe it as failure as much as it is lack of interest. Yes, it is an immigration problem. People are being allowed to immigrate for no good reason. And the problem is not just in the United States, it is an international problem.
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the problem is that first world countries are run by liberals. If we stopped giving EVERYTHING to immigrants , both legal and illegal how many would still come?
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It is necessary
People do need to understand that there are still Americans that refuse to knuckle under to the feel good , kum bye ya liberal crowds The old Sos was a strong force , they could have been one of the premier anti illegal immigration forces in this country Alipac could have been also Pc killed what should be 2 huge national orgs I still contend that until we recognize the true enemy and can speak about it , we will lose this battle. |
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It's ok. I'll repackage it again. If you have a white skin, does that make you a person who murders Jewish women and kids in "showers" with Cyclone B gas, and work able bodied Jewish men to death throwing their relative's bodies into ovens? If you are a man living within 90 miles of San Francisco, does that mean you are homosexual? If you ever agreed with one single thing Barbara Boxer ever said, does that make you a communist who needs to be stripped of citizenship? Your neighbor regularly beats his wife and kids and tortures animals for kicks in a sound proof basement. Are you now an accomplice? Someone stumbles onto you taking a leak in the bushes, does that make you a sex offender? Your cousin has a moped and a Rat Fink tat on his thigh, does that turn you into one of the "Filthy Few"? This might look Familiar: Quote:
Generally speaking, there is not a monolithic block of which all people with brown skins are "La Ratza, illegal alien, neighborhood destroying invader locust child molesting gang banging drug dealing welfare cheating cockroach perpetual drunkards who routinely pee in public and only speak Spanish." Illegals and their first generation children either born or growing up in America are generally different people. [Edited in for clarification: derived from two cultures, and in many cases either rejected by or not belonging to either one] The following generations have more differences. In all groups, you have bigots, wastrels, leeches, thieves, presumptuous opportunists, and fairly decent people who are human, and some make more mistakes and have more misjudgments than others. Just like white Americans. I believe that multi generational Mexican Americans are generally looked down on and disrespected by Mexicans, illegals beat Mexican Americans out of work just like they do white Americans. I further believe that more Mexican Americans would be against illegal immigration if it didn't sound so much like white people want to deport them along with illegal Mexicans. You have the free choice as to whether you want to give racist brown nationalists free ammunition to use against you. For what it's worth. |
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