ozbama ready to shoot himself in the OTHER foot

[Kathy63]

This is the year that ozbama is finally going to institute his version of amnesty, comprehensive immigration reform.

Gotta say one thing, he is talented. His talent lies in putting his finger on just the one thing that will make Americans BLOW at any given moment. Amnesty (and if he refers to it as anything else it will only get worse for him) is the one issue that Americans of both parties, dare I say ALL parties agree on. We would rather have deportation than legalization. We have high unemployment as it is, criminal aliens have lowered wages and job expectations wherever they settle.

When he makes this announcement, tonight, the Tea Parties will fade into the background as mere coffee klaches.

http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/op...-82777882.html


Of all the issues that could add to the self-inflicted wounds of Democratic leaders in Congress and the White House, comprehensive immigration reform is perhaps at the top of the list. After the health care fiasco, the unpassable-in-the-Senate cap-and-trade legislation, and lingering public unhappiness with the stimulus, would Barack Obama, Nancy Pelosi, and Harry Reid really turn their attention to comprehensive immigration reform in this election year?
The answer is yes. The latest indication that Obama plans to move ahead on his commitment to comprehensive reform is in a set of videos released by the White House to mark the president's first year in office. The videos, in which cabinet members explain their goals for the coming year, are on the White House website. In one of them, Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitano touts her department's efforts in 2009 to deploy "more people, technology, and resources" at the nation's borders. In 2010, Napolitano says, Homeland Security will work on aviation security, information sharing, border security, and: "We will pursue comprehensive immigration reform to address longstanding problems with our immigration system."
But just how committed is the White House to the passage of a reform bill? Napolitano's immigration pledge was brought up at Tuesday's White House briefing. "What's this going to look like?" a reporter asked press secretary Robert Gibbs.
"Well, I think one of the things the President will -- has talked about and one of the things you'll hear him mention [in the State of the Union speech] and in the coming days, similar to what I've said on cap and trade, and that is that if -- we've started a process on this and if Congress can put together the way forward, a coalition to get the way forward, then it's something we'll work through," Gibbs said.

[Ayatollahgondola]

When he makes this announcement, tonight, the Tea Parties will fade into the background as mere coffee klaches.

And that is likely the reason for it. the whole TEA party movement is getting too powerful, and the masters of the US want t o bust it up a little. Just because the TEA partiers have some similar agendas doesn't mean they are all on the same page on illegals. The TEA Partiers here in Sac joined forces with the Latino water rights coalition to get an agenda passed on pumping water south..
I should also point out that not all TEA party'ers are on the same page either.

[Kathy63]

I was actually referring to size and ferocity. When he proposes his amnesty, there is going to be a backlash like Godzilla swinging his tail. Since last summer more people have lost their jobs, taxes have gone up, The public is already being forced to accept hatian criminal aliens and refugees. The public is in no mood to have amnesty imposed along with everything else.

Getting the water turned on is SO important, if I could do it, I would have gone to a protest for that myself.

I found our recently that there is a bill to overturn that Judge's decision by federal legislative action. It's bottled up in committee by none other than Nancy Pelosi.

[Kathy63]

Yep he's loading and locking. Aimed right at his big toe.

http://gatewaypundit.firstthings.com/2010/01/figures-obamas-socialist-advisers-are-behind-his-push-for-immigration-reform/

[Jeanfromfillmore]

I was actually referring to size and ferocity. When he proposes his amnesty, there is going to be a backlash like Godzilla swinging his tail. Since last summer more people have lost their jobs, taxes have gone up, The public is already being forced to accept hatian criminal aliens and refugees. The public is in no mood to have amnesty imposed along with everything else.

Getting the water turned on is SO important, if I could do it, I would have gone to a protest for that myself.

I found our recently that there is a bill to overturn that Judge's decision by federal legislative action. It's bottled up in committee by none other than Nancy Pelosi.I don't necessarily agree with you on the water issue. For one, the growers aren't growing food just for us, actually much is being shipped out of the country. We're eating produce grown south of us. The growers are contributing to the political purses of those who will give them more of those migrant work visas. And if we didn't have this huge invasion which will double in basically no time at all, we wouldn't be using up as much of that natural resource as we are using. When those in power begin to realize that we can not sustain the population these breeders will bring this state to, then maybe they will wake up to what they're encouraging.

We need to actually face the fact that humans can not do without water, and the population can only sustain itself when there is a sufficient supply. We all ready artificially move it from place to place, borrowing from Peter to pay Paul. But there come a time when there's no place to borrow from and you've overpopulated. The politicians did this with our finances, like a shell game they borrowed from one to pay another, hiding the fact of where the money came from. Until there were no more shells left to take from. That's what will happen with water, and is happening to some questionable degree today.

If you remember a few years back, they tried to put together that big Newhall land development between Valencia and Ventura county. Ventura County stopped it at the county line because the developers couldn't come up with the water supply needed for that many homes and businesses. LA County didn't seem to care. So the project was cut in half and last I heard is L A (Valencia) plans on continuing the project.

You see some, actually most, politicians and big business are like junkies who will destroy their one bodies until there's no other place to turn. I'm of the opinion that they need to be cut off cold turkey and go through withdrawals until they face the situation we are in and do what is needed before we have no choice in the matter at all.

[Kathy63]

When the federal judge ordered the water to the farms and ranches cut off, it was to protect the snail darter fish.

There was no lessening or reduction in the criminal alien invasion. What happened was that everyone found their water useage reduced. We do buy a lot of produce mostly from Chile (which has mechanized farms). More now than before because now there is very little California grown produce at all.

If you like what's happened to the produce, you will love what is going to happen to poultry and eggs because this is the last year we will have domestic affordable food like that. Again, because of foolish legislative actions. If the farmers haven't already left, they will now.

If you want a good picture of what the future of California is, look at Haiti.

[Don]

I heard an internet radio show by farmers who are into this stuff and from what I could gather, under these goof ball free trade arrangements we export substantial amounts of food and import other food. The net effect is that we're losing control over our domestic food supply and will be vulnerable to imports...like Great Britain in two world wars was vulnerable to blockade and starvation.

The whole structure of our country is being manipulated so as to make us as vulnerable and weak as possible. The illegal alien invasion is just one aspect of it.

[Ayatollahgondola]

I was actually referring to size and ferocity. When he proposes his amnesty, there is going to be a backlash like Godzilla swinging his tail. Since last summer more people have lost their jobs, taxes have gone up, The public is already being forced to accept hatian criminal aliens and refugees. The public is in no mood to have amnesty imposed along with everything else.

Getting the water turned on is SO important, if I could do it, I would have gone to a protest for that myself.

I found our recently that there is a bill to overturn that Judge's decision by federal legislative action. It's bottled up in committee by none other than Nancy Pelosi.

Kathy,
The water issue is not just the dems vs repubs. It is greed vs people. The agribusiness and the developers are addicted to growth, and they'll join forces or work both sides of the street to keep the business flowing. Bottom line is though, more water = more illegals, and more cost. Water doesn't go down in price no matter how much their is, so peons like us will lose unless we keep control of it. We let them turn the delta pumps on and ship the water south, and you'll see barrios springing up around you everywhere, and everywhere you hope to move.

[Twoller]

Kathy,
The water issue is not just the dems vs repubs. It is greed vs people. The agribusiness and the developers are addicted to growth, and they'll join forces or work both sides of the street to keep the business flowing. Bottom line is though, more water = more illegals, and more cost. Water doesn't go down in price no matter how much their is, so peons like us will lose unless we keep control of it. We let them turn the delta pumps on and ship the water south, and you'll see barrios springing up around you everywhere, and everywhere you hope to move.

Glad somebody brought that up. The history of water in California is the history of Mexican parasitism on the state and the country.

Isn't it true that a good part of the Mexican water supply in Northern Mexico is from California?

[Jeanfromfillmore]

When the federal judge ordered the water to the farms and ranches cut off, it was to protect the snail darter fish.

There was no lessening or reduction in the criminal alien invasion. What happened was that everyone found their water useage reduced. We do buy a lot of produce mostly from Chile (which has mechanized farms). More now than before because now there is very little California grown produce at all.

If you like what's happened to the produce, you will love what is going to happen to poultry and eggs because this is the last year we will have domestic affordable food like that. Again, because of foolish legislative actions. If the farmers haven't already left, they will now.

If you want a good picture of what the future of California is, look at Haiti.

Kathy I wasn't implying there was a reduction in the invaders, and I'm not happy that a large amount of our produce is coming from south of the border. Who knows was sewer water or contaminated fields they're using. What I stating is we have limited resources and killing off something to support another that shouldn't be here in the first place will come back to bit us is the rear in the years to come. The growers are scamming the public big time and that needs to be exposed. The land may eventually be turned into housing, which needs more water. That's what they tried to do with the Newhall land development. That is all agricultural land that runs along Highway 126 from just about where Piru ends all the way to interstate 5. That would house a lot of people, but requires tremendous amounts of water. That is why Ventura County said no, because we are a big agricultural county and that water has to go toward growing food. If this invasion continues, they will have to build more housing, and the farmers will lose. But this battle will continue until the farmers and government come to the realize we can't have both. If we keep giving the farmers water when it is damaging other natural resources, which fish are (even small fish feed big fish) the problem gets swept under the rug until there's no turning back. Someones got to take a hit before they will deal with anything. Let it be the farmers, and let's hope they all wake up before this state is nothing but housing and concrete.

[Don]

I was actually referring to size and ferocity. When he proposes his amnesty, there is going to be a backlash like Godzilla swinging his tail. Since last summer more people have lost their jobs, taxes have gone up, The public is already being forced to accept hatian criminal aliens and refugees. The public is in no mood to have amnesty imposed along with everything else.

Getting the water turned on is SO important, if I could do it, I would have gone to a protest for that myself.

I found our recently that there is a bill to overturn that Judge's decision by federal legislative action. It's bottled up in committee by none other than Nancy Pelosi.

Well reasoned and argued.

[Kathy63]

A country that cannot feed itself will not survive. It will be dependent on whoever provides the people's food much like a pet. Haiti grew its own food prior to the slave revolt. Zimbabwe was once the breadbasket of Africa until the farmers were slaughtered and the crops burned in the fields.

If we do not resurrect our farmlands, we have a future of the people standing in UN food distribution lines.

To imagine that cutting off the water to farms will have some effect on the invasion is extremely short sighted. The invaders will have the water and YOU and I will be paying the bill, and we STILL have to import our food. As long as we can pay for it that is. After all, without the ability to grow our own, an exporter can charge whatever it wishes.

I fail to see how the growers are scamming anyone when they have lost farms, orchards and ranches that have been in families for generations. I see no scam in rich topsoil blowing away as dust. Some of these growers have lost everything they have. Now you might say they employed criminal aliens and deserve the loss. Even if it is true, I fail to see how such "scamming" to the point of losing everything is beneficial. Or how the loss of tens of thousands of acres of farmland benefits us.

[Ayatollahgondola]

A country that cannot feed itself will not survive. It will be dependent on whoever provides the people's food much like a pet. Haiti grew its own food prior to the slave revolt. Zimbabwe was once the breadbasket of Africa until the farmers were slaughtered and the crops burned in the fields.

If we do not resurrect our farmlands, we have a future of the people standing in UN food distribution lines.

To imagine that cutting off the water to farms will have some effect on the invasion is extremely short sighted. The invaders will have the water and YOU and I will be paying the bill, and we STILL have to import our food. As long as we can pay for it that is. After all, without the ability to grow our own, an exporter can charge whatever it wishes.

I fail to see how the growers are scamming anyone when they have lost farms, orchards and ranches that have been in families for generations. I see no scam in rich topsoil blowing away as dust. Some of these growers have lost everything they have. Now you might say they employed criminal aliens and deserve the loss. Even if it is true, I fail to see how such "scamming" to the point of losing everything is beneficial. Or how the loss of tens of thousands of acres of farmland benefits us.

The water doesn't end up in the poor downtrodden family farms. The promoters just make it look that way just like the illegals supporters use "splitting up families" and "hard working tax paying good hearted people".
Once they get their way, and the water, they'll just continue driving out family farms the way they did before this opportunity came along.

[Kathy63]

The real results aren't going in that direction AG.

If you believe that cutting off the water to the farms is beneficial, you will just continue to believe it no matter what evidence turns up.

I will not allow criminal immigration to become the hobgoblin.

[Rim05]

You are right about that, AG.

[rs232c]

When he said in his SOTUS that jobs were #1, I immediately wondered who for, government, hb1 visas, illegals, or other countries.

I didn't see the whole thing but I am certain he made no mention of simple step #1 - stop giving tax credits to companies that outsource or anything about stopping the bleeding of sending jobs overseas or reversing it. To say nothing of the big solution, getting government out of the way of the private sector.

He scores high on polls that people like him, well, yes, we all have that friend who is dishonest and bends the truth, omits, and for himself yes sounds like they make a point or pull at our heartstrings but we still admire him and are smart enough to know not to do business with him.

The only thing I am getting out of it is that he admits to problems that are real but does not mention that they should be solved for everyone but for his own ends.

[ilbegone]

The water doesn't end up in the poor downtrodden family farms. The promoters just make it look that way just like the illegals supporters use "splitting up families" and "hard working tax paying good hearted people".
Once they get their way, and the water, they'll just continue driving out family farms the way they did before this opportunity came along.

Just like Walmart running off mom and pop business wherever they land.

[Rim05]

I didn't see the whole thing but I am certain he made no mention of simple step #1 - stop giving tax credits to companies that outsource or anything about stopping the bleeding of sending jobs overseas or reversing it.

I did not see all of it either but he did say we are going to stop giving tax credits to those who out source. Said the credits shoud go to the small businesses here. I thought it was a good SOTU address. It is a fact that no matter what he or any one else says they cannot please everyone. That is just life.

[Kathy63]

Just like Walmart running off mom and pop business wherever they land.

That's a knotty problem isn't it?

The mom and pop businesses are usually overpriced and sell outdated goods. They don't have the inventory turnover and high costs. Walmart has high quality goods, lower prices and a record of raising employment.

Mom and Pop need to change the way they do business. If they can't, Walmart will run them off.

In case you think I do not have sufficient sympathy for the mom and pops, my direct competitor is Petco, just a few blocks away.

[Ayatollahgondola]

That's a knotty problem isn't it?

The mom and pop businesses are usually overpriced and sell outdated goods. They don't have the inventory turnover and high costs. Walmart has high quality goods, lower prices and a record of raising employment.

Mom and Pop need to change the way they do business. If they can't, Walmart will run them off. .

Walmart raises employment alright. At entry level wages. What do you mean Mom and Pop's don't have high costs? That's bordering on absurd. Take a look at most mom and pop's leases and you;ll see that not only are they getting socked with about triple or quadruple what Walmart is paying, they also usually foot the bill for the triple net's that Walmart or other chains in the same property are not. The mom and pops are subsidizing the chains in that regard. And what is this outdated goods thing? That's also ridiculous. Mom and pop has to face to face it with their customers. I cannot see the majority of them getting that by.

[Jeanfromfillmore]

That's a knotty problem isn't it?

The mom and pop businesses are usually overpriced and sell outdated goods. They don't have the inventory turnover and high costs. Walmart has high quality goods, lower prices and a record of raising employment.

Mom and Pop need to change the way they do business. If they can't, Walmart will run them off.

In case you think I do not have sufficient sympathy for the mom and pops, my direct competitor is Petco, just a few blocks away.Kathy, when I read what you write, I usually agree half of the time, but even when I don't agree, I understand you have some validity to what you write. But this post is just BS. We have some small chain markets in my area (maybe 6 stores or less) and their prices are much better than the larger giant corp chains. Walmart does not have better quality products and to support such a monster that has done so much damage by someone who has as much smarts as yourself is, well, dumbfounding.

It is this buying up of smaller businesses and manufacturers by large corps that has put us in such a mess. Banks bought up all the small banks, markets like Safeway, bought up all the smaller chains and the fast food giants that have left us with the same food choices from one city and state to another. There's not nearly as much competition and without competition, monopolies take over and the people lose.

[Twoller]

.... Walmart does not have better quality products and to support such a monster that has done so much damage by someone who has as much smarts as yourself is, well, dumbfounding.

It is this buying up of smaller businesses and manufacturers by large corps that has put us in such a mess. Banks bought up all the small banks, markets like Safeway, bought up all the smaller chains and the fast food giants that have left us with the same food choices from one city and state to another. There's not nearly as much competition and without competition, monopolies take over and the people lose.

And who makes the stuff that sells in these stores? It's either made in China, or touched in some way by illegal immigrants. Remember the arguments that we need illegals to do the stuff that "Americans" won't do?

But it is true, the small operations can't just cruise along pretending its not happening, especially when personal resources have expanded so dramatically in the past twenty years. Any small operation that doesn't use a personal computer and a good database is suffering under some serious delusions.

[Jeanfromfillmore]

Snowpack survey offers hope for state's water supply
By JANET ZIMMERMAN
The Press-Enterprise
Any doubt about the benefits of this month's lengthy and powerful storms was dispelled Friday when measurements in the Sierra Nevada showed the snowpack is well above normal for this time of year.
But state water officials cautioned that even a good start to the season doesn't ward off the possibility of a fourth year of drought, and that conservation is now a way of life in California.
It's also unlikely, they said, that State Water Project allocations to agencies that serve millions of Southern California residents will increase beyond 40 percent -- even if it's an average rainy season -- because of environmental restrictions and other problems in the Sacramento-San Joaquin Delta.
The snow survey "offers us some cautious optimism as we continue to play catch-up with our statewide water supplies," said Sue Sims, chief deputy director at the Department of Water Resources. "Even if California is blessed with a healthy snowpack, we must learn to always conserve this finite resource so that we have enough water for homes, farms and businesses in 2010 and in the future."
The water content of the snowpack, which determines spring runoff out of the mountains, is 115 percent of normal. At this time last year, it was 61 percent of normal.
This was the second of five monthly readings from manual measurements and electronic sensors near Lake Tahoe. The most important will be the early April reading that takes into account the entire rainy season.
The news was better than the reading a month ago, which showed water content at 85 percent of normal for this time of year.
"It's a fairly significant improvement," said Frank Gehrke, a snow surveyor for the state.
The information will be used to make allocations for the State Water Project, the aqueducts that move water to Southern California from the Sacramento-San Joaquin Delta.
Early-season allocations for this year are just 5 percent of what contractors requested, a historic low. But state officials said that could increase if this winter proves to be a wet one.
Besides snowpack and depleted reservoir storage, there are other factors, said Wendy Martin, the state's drought coordinator.
Federal officials have restricted pumping in the delta to protect the endangered delta smelt and -- for the first time this year -- salmon. Those regulations, combined with water-quality restrictions, severely limit how much water can be pumped at any given time, Martin said.
Last year, California had an almost average water year and could still deliver only 40 percent of requested amounts through the State Water Project.
"This year, with additional regulatory restraints, under average conditions, we'd be challenged to get to even 40 percent," she said.
But Dave Miskus, a meteorologist at the National Centers for Environmental Protection in Maryland, was encouraged by the impressive start to winter.
In the 10 years that Miskus has been mapping conditions on the U.S. Drought Monitor, he has never made as many changes as he did following January's week of storms.
By Thursday morning, the browns and tans that signify severe to moderate drought had been replaced with yellows and whites that mean conditions are merely abnormally dry or there is no drought.
"There were one to two category improvements across much of the Southwest," Miskus said. "The whole area got way above normal precipitation and it helped the drought situation across the entire area."
According to the Drought Monitor, 2.2 percent of the state is in severe drought, compared to 48.9 percent at this time last year. Miskus declared that California's short-term drought is over because soils are saturated.
But the long-term drought continues because reservoirs that supply residential and agricultural uses are far from where they should be, he said.
Lake Shasta rose more than 20 feet after the storm and is now at 82 percent of average for this time of year. Lake Oroville, the main reservoir for the State Water Project, is at half of its average storage for late January.
"You need to have average precipitation the rest of the season to make sure there's enough water in the reservoirs and snowpack. If it stops now, you'd be in trouble," he said
http://www.pe.com/localnews/inland/stories/PE_News_Local_W_snow30.464053a.html