I don't know where to start on this stinker

[usa today]

It appears central America is now demanding we take any and all that want to come here


""This is an approach to comprehensive immigration reform, in the sense that not only is the responsibility of the U.S. Government to implement reform," he said.

"The region is also willing to create conditions to make migration a choice of life freely assumed and not a necessity dictated by external factors, complemented Garcia."

"Democratic leaders in the U.S. House of Representatives filed on 15 December a "historic" initiative for comprehensive immigration reform to allow the legalization of millions of immigrants, but for now, no Republican support."


This is getting more morbid by the minute

Still not a word on msm or Fox news

Unless I missed it

[ilbegone]

It appears central America is now demanding we take any and all that want to come here


""This is an approach to comprehensive immigration reform, in the sense that not only is the responsibility of the U.S. Government to implement reform," he said.

"The region is also willing to create conditions to make migration a choice of life freely assumed and not a necessity dictated by external factors, complemented Garcia."

"Democratic leaders in the U.S. House of Representatives filed on 15 December a "historic" initiative for comprehensive immigration reform to allow the legalization of millions of immigrants, but for now, no Republican support."


This is getting more morbid by the minute

Still not a word on msm or Fox news

Unless I missed it

Where did you hear this about Central America?

Just one country or all?

Who is "he said"?

Who is Garcia and what or who does he represent?

[usa today]

here is more info

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[ilbegone]

here is more info

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Here it is...



Países centroamericanos presentarán a EE.UU. propuesta de reforma migratoria

Submitted to the U.S. Central American Countries immigration reform proposal

18 de Diciembre de 2009
December 18, 2009

San Salvador.

Los países centroamericanos presentarán el próximo año en EE.UU. una propuesta de reforma migratoria enfocada en la atención integral de los miles de inmigrantes de la región, anunció hoy la cancillería salvadoreña.

The Central American countries presented next year in the U.S. an immigration reform proposal focused on comprehensive care for thousands of immigrants from the region, Salvadoran Foreign Ministry announced today.

"Por primera vez Centroamérica tiene un instrumento de reforma migratoria propio, que responde a las necesidades ya las aspiraciones de los centroamericanos que viven en situación irregular en Estados Unidos", dijo el viceministro para los salvadoreños en el exterior, Juan José García.

"For the first time Central has its own immigration reform instrument, which responds to the needs and aspirations of Central Americans living illegally in the U.S.," said Vice Minister for Salvadorans abroad, Juan Jose Garcia.

La iniciativa, liderada por El Salvador, Guatemala y la República Dominicana con el apoyo del Sistema de la Integración Centroamericana (SICA), se encuentra en "consultas" con Nicaragua y Costa Rica y busca sumar los apoyos de Panamá, Belice e incluso México, que, según García, mostró "fuerte apertura" ante la reforma.

The initiative, led by El Salvador, Guatemala and the Dominican Republic with the support of Central American Integration System (SICA), is in "consultations" with Nicaragua and Costa Rica and seeks to add the support of Panama, Belize and even Mexico, which, Garcia said, showed "strong opening" over reform.

"De ahora en adelante, Centroamérica se va a sentar a la mesa de diálogo y de negociación con un instrumento que le permita tener incidencia", agregó el viceministro en un encuentro con la prensa, y dijo que cuentan con el apoyo de organizaciones y sindicatos en EE.UU.

"From now on, Central America will sit at the table of dialogue and negotiation with a tool that allows you to have an impact," the deputy minister in a meeting with the press, saying that they have the support of organizations and unions U.S.


García aseguró que "el compromiso de la región es la defensa y promoción de los derechos humanos de los inmigrantes".

Garcia said that "the commitment of the region is the defense and promotion of human rights of immigrants."

La propuesta prevé una multa a los inmigrantes que permanecen de forma irregular en EE.UU. y que permitirá constituir un fondo para financiar el proceso de reforma migratoria, además de que se concedan "facilidades" para la reunificación de las familias de los beneficiados y se protejan sus derechos laborales.

The proposal provides for a fine to immigrants who stay illegally in U.S. and to enable a fund to finance the immigration reform process, in addition to being granted "facilities" to reunite families and beneficiaries to protect their rights.

No se confirmó la fecha en la que se presentará la iniciativa, pues, según el canciller salvadoreño, Hugo Martínez, están "calibrando" el "mejor momento" y el "nivel" para darla a conocer el próximo año, aunque no descartó que se haga durante una visita del presidente Mauricio Funes que "está pendiente".

Not confirmed the date on which the initiative will be presented, then, according to Salvadoran Foreign Minister Hugo Martinez, are "calibrating" the "best time" and the "level" to make it known next year, but did not rule out made during a visit by President Mauricio Funes who is "pending.

Tampoco se informó a cuántos centroamericanos beneficiaría esta propuesta, pero García estimó que en el caso de los salvadoreños abarcaría entre 750.000 y 1.100.000 nacionales en EE.UU.

Nor was informed this proposal would benefit many Central Americans, but Garcia said that in the case of Salvadorans would cover between 750,000 and 1,100,000 U.S. National

"Se trata de un planteamiento de reforma migratoria integral, en el sentido de que no solamente es responsabilidad del Gobierno de los EE.UU. la implementación de la reforma", puntualizó.

"This is an approach to comprehensive immigration reform, in the sense that not only is the responsibility of the U.S. Government to implement reform," he said.
"The region is also willing to create conditions to make migration a choice of life freely assumed and not a necessity dictated by external factors, commented Garcia.


"La región está dispuesta también a generar condiciones para que la migración sea una opción de vida libremente asumida y no una necesidad impuesta por factores externos", complementó García. El secretario general del SICA, Juan Daniel Alemán, destacó este esfuerzo como un "paso en la dirección correcta".

SICA Secretary General, Juan Daniel German, highlighted this effort as a "step in the right direction."

"Es un paso innovador, valiente, muy sensato y de mucha responsabilidad", sostuvo, mientras la embajadora de Guatemala en El Salvador, Silvia Cáceres, resaltó que "Centroamérica está unida" para conseguir a sus ciudadanos un estatus legal migratorio.

"It's an innovative step, brave, very sensible and very responsible," he said, as Guatemala's ambassador in El Salvador, Silvia Caceres, stressed that "Central America is united" to get their citizens with a legal immigration status.

Líderes demócratas de la Cámara de Representantes de EE.UU. presentaron el pasado 15 de diciembre una "histórica" iniciativa para una reforma migratoria integral que permita la legalización de millones de indocumentados, pero que, por ahora, carece de apoyo republicano.

Democratic leaders in the U.S. House of Representatives filed on 15 December a "historic" initiative for comprehensive immigration reform to allow the legalization of millions of immigrants, but for now, no Republican support.

Según el canciller salvadoreño, existen "abundantes coincidencias" entre ambas iniciativas. "Coincidir en líneas estratégicas con la propuesta del congresista nos alegra muchísimo, porque estamos en la línea correcta", sostuvo, por su parte, García.

According to Foreign Minister of El Salvador, there are "plentiful coincidences" between both initiatives."We agree with the proposed strategic lines of Congressman us very glad because we're in the right line," he said, for his part, Garcia.

[Jeanfromfillmore]

Yes, while we go Christmas shopping and decorate the tree, those south of us are dictating/demanding to our government what we 'must' do in regards to our own country's immigration policy. Yes, they invade, flood us with their countrymen and then tell us what they expect us to do. What are their plans if we don't comply?

[ilbegone]

What are our plans if our elected officials (elected to represent us) continue to allow foreigners to meddle with our internal affairs?

[Ayatollahgondola]

What are our plans if our elected officials (elected to represent us) continue to allow foreigners to meddle with our internal affairs?

That's a good question. We have to develop a strategy for this, but without a big bargaining chip in our hand they have no reason to listen to us or act on our wishes. Normally it's money and/or power that gets their ear, but over the course of centuries there has been other factors that directed them also. Religion for example.

[ilbegone]

That's a good question. We have to develop a strategy for this, but without a big bargaining chip in our hand they have no reason to listen to us or act on our wishes. Normally it's money and/or power that gets their ear, but over the course of centuries there has been other factors that directed them also. Religion for example.

We don't have money, nor any real power.

The bargaining chip would have to be created by finding a way to pry them away from the trough.

How can the current national discontent be harnessed to whack the politicians between the eyes and get them to listen and do for once?

[usa today]

the problem is and will get worse , their voting power

As more and more anchors get to voting age you can be sure they will vote race over anything else

Just like the blacks with obama

Lots of them were stone cold ignorant of any issues , they just perceived that a black man in office was going to give them more free stuff.

The same with latinos , as their power grows they will want more power

Its going to be a Kosovo all over again here in a few years , they want more favors and more perks

Its a perfect storm in so many ways

[Jeanfromfillmore]

the problem is and will get worse , their voting power

As more and more anchors get to voting age you can be sure they will vote race over anything else

Just like the blacks with obama

Lots of them were stone cold ignorant of any issues , they just perceived that a black man in office was going to give them more free stuff.

The same with latinos , as their power grows they will want more power

Its going to be a Kosovo all over again here in a few years , they want more favors and more perks

Its a perfect storm in so many ways

Do you assume that the status quo in as far as the US economy will continue to sustain the entitlement/welfare system? I don't see that happening, because the money has to come from somewhere. Eventually it will come down to every man for himself. I've already seen some signs of it. When the cupboard is bare, attitudes start to change and reality sets in.

[DerailAmnesty.com]

Yes, they invade, flood us with their countrymen and then tell us what they expect us to do. What are their plans if we don't comply?


Irresponsibly reproduce, complain of racist discrimination, and soak up whatever goodies are available. The silver lining to all this is that the plan remains exactly the same even if we comply.