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Don
11-16-2009, 05:35 PM
I should say I'm surprised to hear the outpouring of sympathy for poor Naui and the poor illiterate villagers who apparently attacked members of the old organization at Maywood, but I'm not.

If you feel more sorry for the savages who're going to kill you when they can than you do for your own right to exist, you're doomed. Totally doomed.

More and more I'm beginning to understand the mentality of pioneers who exterminated Indians. A good one is a dead one because dead one won't breed and it won't kill you or your family. That's where this Mexican invasion is going. They're savages. Before Europeans came, they used to eat each other and harvest children for human sacrifice and food. Read the history of the Aztecs. See Mel Gibson's movie, Aplocalypto. IF they're not stopped, they will kill all of us when they get their numbers up and that day is coming fast.

I pray for the day when these monsters riot and what's left of the American people see them on TV as they pull white people out of cars and beat and kill them like in the Rodney King Riots in 1992. If that day comes soon, we will still have a chance to summon enough hatred and common sense to do what has to be done. If they're numbers continue to grow, we're doomed. We already live under an occupation government that protects the interests of these savages over the interests of what's left of the dwindling American population. Obongo, our Kenyan President, hates America and hates Americans. He's biding his time and waiting to preside over the massacre of American citizens.

DerailAmnesty.com
11-16-2009, 05:45 PM
I should say I'm surprised to hear the outpouring of sympathy for poor Naui and the poor illiterate villagers who apparently attacked members of the old organization at Maywood, but I'm not.

If you feel more sorry for the savages who're going to kill you when they can than you do for your own right to exist, you're doomed. Totally doomed


Please point out to me the post, passage or other writing in this thread, or anywhere on this board for that matter, that is the outpouring of sympathy for the poor illiterate villagers who apparently attacked members of the old organization at Maywood ...

Further, where did you see any indication or reference to feeling sorry for the savages who are going to kill you ....?

I'm really lost. Are we reading the same posts?

LAPhil
11-16-2009, 07:12 PM
I should say I'm surprised to hear the outpouring of sympathy for poor Naui and the poor illiterate villagers who apparently attacked members of the old organization at Maywood, but I'm not.

If you feel more sorry for the savages who're going to kill you when they can than you do for your own right to exist, you're doomed. Totally doomed.

More and more I'm beginning to understand the mentality of pioneers who exterminated Indians. A good one is a dead one because dead one won't breed and it won't kill you or your family. That's where this Mexican invasion is going. They're savages. Before Europeans came, they used to eat each other and harvest children for human sacrifice and food. Read the history of the Aztecs. See Mel Gibson's movie, Aplocalypto. IF they're not stopped, they will kill all of us when they get their numbers up and that day is coming fast.

I pray for the day when these monsters riot and what's left of the American people see them on TV as they pull white people out of cars and beat and kill them like in the Rodney King Riots in 1992. If that day comes soon, we will still have a chance to summon enough hatred and common sense to do what has to be done. If they're numbers continue to grow, we're doomed. We already live under an occupation government that protects the interests of these savages over the interests of what's left of the dwindling American population. Obongo, our Kenyan President, hates America and hates Americans. He's biding his time and waiting to preside over the massacre of American citizens.
Your post sounds nihilistic as hell. You're encouraging genocide, and that's not what we're about here.

usa today
11-27-2009, 03:57 PM
PC is going to be the death of this country sooner rather than later.

Unless we get rid of the Lib PC BS and call a spade a spade , we are lost

I'm not advocating genocide , Just saying that IMO , We can't begin to fight the battle until we recognize the enemy, Once we can at least do that then we can figure out the best way to win the war.

Until we can do that , we are pounding sand.

Patriotic Army Mom
11-27-2009, 08:00 PM
PC is what keeps us where we are. And I don't do that very well.

Ayatollahgondola
11-27-2009, 09:18 PM
PC is going to be the death of this country sooner rather than later.

Unless we get rid of the Lib PC BS and call a spade a spade , we are lost

I'm not advocating genocide , Just saying that IMO , We can't begin to fight the battle until we recognize the enemy, Once we can at least do that then we can figure out the best way to win the war.

Until we can do that , we are pounding sand.

PC is what keeps us where we are. And I don't do that very well.

I don't know if that's true. There's another term for PC; restraint. Think of it like having a poker face. If you let your emotions fly in a card game, the disciplined players read you like a book. Then what happens.....

ilbegone
11-28-2009, 11:28 AM
Maybe we can look at it another way:

Get twenty five anti-illegal demonstrators at the front door of a major "news" outlet, and the event might not be addressed in the media.

Five open borders activists in a closet saying that those five in front of the media are racists will get front page coverage.


200 anti illegal immigration activist rally in a park and have some media attention, maybe because there are two hundred open borders advocates across the street calling them "racists".

Then, two black uniformed "Heil Hitler" bozos with swastika armbands walk by.

So, who does all the media attention get focused on, and which group is associated with uninvited and unwelcome nazi fascists? And what message gets lost in the process?

What Nazi numbskull has ever been nominated for public office in America? What great social plans do they espouse? Do people who believe in a just America become involved with National Socialism?

Once again, unfounded allegation of white racism by less than a reasonable assumption of association is taken as fact - no proof needed. The message is about illegality and how unchecked migration has damaged America, not about race.

"White racism" sells, and anti illegal immigration activism is self defeating if it constantly shovels ammunition to the opposing side.

Like it or not.

LAPhil
11-28-2009, 11:46 AM
I don't know if that's true. There's another term for PC; restraint. Think of it like having a poker face. If you let your emotions fly in a card game, the disciplined players read you like a book. Then what happens.....
AG, that's not the way I understand PC. PC is what led up to the Fort Hood massacre. The fact that a guy for whom there should have been numerous red flags over a period of several years can work his way up to a major and a psychiatrist in the United States Army is the classic example of PC gone bananas. He was only allowed to slide in spite of all the warning signs because he was a Muslim, which is now ironically a protected class. There has been so much destruction on the part of Muslim fanatics that the establishment in this country now leans over backwards not to offend or be accused of persecuting anyone because of their Muslim faith. After all, chances are the individual in question is innocent, so we choose to err on the side of his civil rights. In the meantime while this Hasan freak is supposed to be giving a lecture on medicine and instead talks about how infidels have to have oil poured their throats and beheaded, no one does anything about it. Now 13 people are dead at the hands of this terrorist, who should have been discharged from the Army years ago and perhaps institutionalized as well.

Don
11-28-2009, 11:49 AM
Your post sounds nihilistic as hell. You're encouraging genocide, and that's not what we're about here.

This is the stupidest comment imaginable. They're invading my country and I'm encouraging "genocide" because I believe in defending my country and civilization against savages?

What do you call the use of nuclear weapons against undefended civilian targets (Hiroshima and Nagasaki) after that country , Japan, was already defeated and trying to surrender? Genocide or national defense? Did you support the invasion of Iraq and the massacre of hundreds of thousands of Iraqis who never did anything to us? We bombed Iraq for 10 years and they could not shoot down a single one of our planes. Iraq was never a threat to the USA. Nobody in our controlled media or our brainwashed population will call it "genocide" when we bomb Iran, a country that has not invaded another country in 700 years.

I do not advocate invading or even bombing Mexico. I want Mexico to be the safest place in the world for Mexicans so they will have a motive to go there...and stay there. If they want to work hard and achieve a better life, let them do so in their own land and stop blaming the USA for their screwed up dysfunctional country that has always been a disaster. If they can't create a better life in their own land, let them go back to eating each other and lre live their lost Aztec glory they worship so much.

Mexico is a direct threat to the American people. Apart from their drug cartels and criminal gangs, their murderous, blood soaked, homicidal Aztec "religion" and racial unity are huge factors. There was a taxpayer subsidized public "charter" school here in LA that attracted attention several years ago. It's headed by one of these bloodthirsty monsters and it teaches the dead Aztec language and the base-20 Aztec number system. Can you name a single professional school, law school, medical school, engineering school, etc. that has classes or uses text books based on a dead Aztec language or uses their base 20 number system? Surprise: There are none!

This school, and God knows how many others like it, are producing savages who are unemployable at real jobs and are suitable only for taxpayer subsidized jobs as "community organizers" or teachers so that they can energize and recruit more monsters for fill the ranks of their army and their gangs to kill us.

I've seen video of their marches and events and they always have these Aztec dancers in native costume. They're always talking about "pride" in their Aztec "culture" and their "Hispanic heritage", blah, blah blah. This is the same culture they ran away from to come to our country for a better life! They take very seriously this Aztec fanaticism and the homicidal savagry upon which it's based. These are stone age primitives with electricity and indoor plumbing courtesy of the American welfare state and corrupt corporate donors who fund their movement.

They have a plan, a vision, and a taxpayer subsidized infra-structure based on destroying our country and murdering its people.

They are the nihilists and mass murderers. Not me.

LAPhil
11-28-2009, 12:11 PM
Don, I don't think it was a stupid comment at all, even looking back on it. Here's an example of what you said in your post: "I pray for the day when these monsters riot and what's left of the American people see them on TV as they pull white people out of cars and beat and kill them like in the Rodney King Riots in 1992. If that day comes soon, we will still have a chance to summon enough hatred and common sense to do what has to be done."

The whole tone of your post was as if these vicious, primitive Aztecs are representive of illegal aliens or even Mexicans in general, and that the only good ones will be dead ones. It just seemed a little over the top to me. We don't disagree about illegal immigration, but sometimes the rhetoric can be a bit much. Remember, this board is read by a lot of people outside of SOS and I wouldn't want those kinds of posts to considered representative of the thinking of our membership in general.

Jeanfromfillmore
11-28-2009, 01:10 PM
This is the stupidest comment imaginable. They're invading my country and I'm encouraging "genocide" because I believe in defending my country and civilization against savages?

What do you call the use of nuclear weapons against undefended civilian targets (Hiroshima and Nagasaki) after that country , Japan, was already defeated and trying to surrender? Genocide or national defense? Did you support the invasion of Iraq and the massacre of hundreds of thousands of Iraqis who never did anything to us? We bombed Iraq for 10 years and they could not shoot down a single one of our planes. Iraq was never a threat to the USA. Nobody in our controlled media or our brainwashed population will call it "genocide" when we bomb Iran, a country that has not invaded another country in 700 years.

I do not advocate invading or even bombing Mexico. I want Mexico to be the safest place in the world for Mexicans so they will have a motive to go there...and stay there. If they want to work hard and achieve a better life, let them do so in their own land and stop blaming the USA for their screwed up dysfunctional country that has always been a disaster. If they can't create a better life in their own land, let them go back to eating each other and lre live their lost Aztec glory they worship so much.

Mexico is a direct threat to the American people. Apart from their drug cartels and criminal gangs, their murderous, blood soaked, homicidal Aztec "religion" and racial unity are huge factors. There was a taxpayer subsidized public "charter" school here in LA that attracted attention several years ago. It's headed by one of these bloodthirsty monsters and it teaches the dead Aztec language and the base-20 Aztec number system. Can you name a single professional school, law school, medical school, engineering school, etc. that has classes or uses text books based on a dead Aztec language or uses their base 20 number system? Surprise: There are none!

This school, and God knows how many others like it, are producing savages who are unemployable at real jobs and are suitable only for taxpayer subsidized jobs as "community organizers" or teachers so that they can energize and recruit more monsters for fill the ranks of their army and their gangs to kill us.

I've seen video of their marches and events and they always have these Aztec dancers in native costume. They're always talking about "pride" in their Aztec "culture" and their "Hispanic heritage", blah, blah blah. This is the same culture they ran away from to come to our country for a better life! They take very seriously this Aztec fanaticism and the homicidal savagry upon which it's based. These are stone age primitives with electricity and indoor plumbing courtesy of the American welfare state and corrupt corporate donors who fund their movement.

They have a plan, a vision, and a taxpayer subsidized infra-structure based on destroying our country and murdering its people.

They are the nihilists and mass murderers. Not me.

Don could you have said something like 'I don't agree with what you wrote' or something to that effect? Instead of, quote "This is the stupidest comment imaginable" . That statement attacks the person writing it, not what is disagreed with.

ilbegone
11-29-2009, 12:33 PM
Something else to think of...

I believe I'm partially responsible for Kele being beaten by the un-virtue of running my mouth in the old Dissenter's Paradise.

At that time I enjoyed pissing them off, said a lot of disrespectful things to them. And, I wasn't at the event where she was cut off and pounded.

It's real easy to to anonymously run an alligator mouth on the web. But in doing so, I endangered other people.

So, with the benefit of hindsight, I believe it is much better not to say anything on this site that you probably wouldn't say to their face. Particularly if you would get a deserved ass beating for doing so.

You have to have credibility, and my actions at that time lended none either to myself or to the organization.

LAPhil
11-29-2009, 01:37 PM
Something else to think of...

I believe I'm partially responsible for Kele being beaten by the un-virtue of running my mouth in the old Dissenter's Paradise.

At that time I enjoyed pissing them off, said a lot of disrespectful things to them. And, I wasn't at the event where she was cut off and pounded.

It's real easy to to anonymously run an alligator mouth on the web. But in doing so, I endangered other people.

So, with the benefit of hindsight, I believe it is much better not to say anything on this site that you probably wouldn't say to their face. Particularly if you would get a deserved ass beating for doing so.

You have to have credibility, and my actions at that time lended none either to myself or to the organization.
I think you're blaming yourself unnecessarily. There has always been trash talk between us and them, and that's the nature of the beast. Do you really expect that being nice to goons is going to make them treat us better? Please! I don't mean to put you down here, but that's kind of like the idea that we need to be nicer to Islamic fundamentalists who may be potential terrorists in the hope that they'll be less likely to do us harm.

REWHBLCAIN
11-29-2009, 02:04 PM
I think you're blaming yourself unnecessarily. There has always been trash talk between us and them, and that's the nature of the beast. Do you really expect that being nice to goons is going to make them treat us better? Please! I don't mean to put you down here, but that's kind of like the idea that we need to be nicer to Islamic fundamentalists who may be potential terrorists in the hope that they'll be less likely to do us harm.

So true.......So true.

Jeanfromfillmore
11-29-2009, 02:46 PM
Something else to think of...

I believe I'm partially responsible for Kele being beaten by the un-virtue of running my mouth in the old Dissenter's Paradise.

At that time I enjoyed pissing them off, said a lot of disrespectful things to them. And, I wasn't at the event where she was cut off and pounded.

It's real easy to to anonymously run an alligator mouth on the web. But in doing so, I endangered other people.

So, with the benefit of hindsight, I believe it is much better not to say anything on this site that you probably wouldn't say to their face. Particularly if you would get a deserved ass beating for doing so.

You have to have credibility, and my actions at that time lended none either to myself or to the organization.

I agree with Phil, you had nothing to do with that. These low life La Razaist have a third world mentality. They barely move out of huts and they'd eat their pry if they thought they could get away with it.

What gives them any type of power is that they stick together. They rarely think on their own, probably due to the lack of comprehension on any deeper level. And as a result they live a mob mentality and follow the pack.

LAPhil
11-29-2009, 06:47 PM
I agree with Phil, you had nothing to do with that. These low life La Razaist have a third world mentality. They barely move out of huts and they'd eat their pry if they thought they could get away with it.

What gives them any type of power is that they stick together. They rarely think on their own, probably due to the lack of comprehension on any deeper level. And as a result they live a mob mentality and follow the pack.
Another thing is they don't need any provocation from us to commit acts of violence. All they have to do is see our signs.

Cruisingfool
11-29-2009, 08:16 PM
If you really do deep research on PC, it all leads back the introduction of the Federal Reserve. There are some very troubling times coming our way, and very soon.

I sincerely hope everyone has been preparing........

The Waco Kid
11-29-2009, 09:05 PM
I was there in Maywood that August day in 2006 and helped coordinate the day's events, the only one responsible for getting Kele beaten up was Kele herself for being stupid enough to follow Chelene and one other female into a crowd of hundreds of frothing at the mouth, rabid Open border types. No one was supposed to go unescorted by police into the area they ventured into plus the fact that they arrived 90 minutes late compounded the situation. Anyone with half a brain would not have gone into that hostile crowd, but she/they did. After it happened there was much whining on Kele's part and no one was supposed to say anything about it due the increasing PC type attitude of SOS once Chelene gained influence. What Kele and the other two women did was incredibly stupid but they didnt want to admit that painful fact.

I myself had my car severely vandalized that day and it was miraculous that Cat Patrol, Black Cats in Ontario and I even made it out of Maywood.... and we didn't venture unprotected into enemy territory. Be that as it may, I spent no time whining about it.

Let's get real people. Time for all of us to take responsibility for our own actions and not be the perpetual victims nor should we be enablers of the "victim mentality", which is what Kele had. She screwed up, believed Chelene, got her ass kicked and then cried foul (to an extreme). Too bad so sad. We are all adults here so let's act like it. Actions have consequences as Kele found out that day when she acted the fool.

Ayatollahgondola
11-30-2009, 12:32 AM
I was there in Maywood that August day in 2006 and helped coordinate the day's events, the only one responsible for getting Kele beaten up was Kele herself for being stupid enough to follow Chelene and one other female into a crowd of hundreds of frothing at the mouth, rabid Open border types. No one was supposed to go unescorted by police into the area they ventured into plus the fact that they arrived 90 minutes late compounded the situation. Anyone with half a brain would not have gone into that hostile crowd, but she/they did. After it happened there was much whining on Kele's part and no one was supposed to say anything about it due the increasing PC type attitude of SOS once Chelene gained influence. What Kele and the other two women did was incredibly stupid but they didnt want to admit that painful fact.

I myself had my car severely vandalized that day and it was miraculous that Cat Patrol, Black Cats in Ontario and I even made it out of Maywood.... and we didn't venture unprotected into enemy territory. Be that as it may, I spent no time whining about it.

Let's get real people. Time for all of us to take responsibility for our own actions and not be the perpetual victims nor should we be enablers of the "victim mentality", which is what Kele had. She screwed up, believed Chelene, got her ass kicked and then cried foul (to an extreme). Too bad so sad. We are all adults here so let's act like it. Actions have consequences as Kele found out that day when she acted the fool.

Seems a bit harsh. Haven't you let the, what was it you called them?, "crowd of hundreds of frothing at the mouth, rabid Open border types" completely off the hook here?

Jeanfromfillmore
11-30-2009, 12:41 PM
Seems a bit harsh. Haven't you let the, what was it you called them?, "crowd of hundreds of frothing at the mouth, rabid Open border types" completely off the hook here?Yes she has.

Don
11-30-2009, 03:30 PM
In 1967 I helped organize a pro-American Viet Nam War rally with Congressmen, local politicos and a Green Beret speaking. A few hundred people showed up. There was one cop. He stood under a shade tree looking at his watch every ten minutes because he was bored and wanted to go home. A few anti-war types showed up, but were courteous and civil. No disruption and no violence

Fast forward 30 years to July 4, 1996 at an Independence Day rally at Westwood at the Federal Bldg. Mexican thugs charged across the street, attacked and threw full can’s of soda pop at us. The cops did nothing.

In 2000, I went again to Westwood on July 4, 2000 and substantially the same thing happened. Mexicans attacked us. Cops did nothing. Only some fancy footwork kept me and others from being severely injured.

After that I basically stopped going to street events/rallies. I have a back back and bad knee. I can't dodge “incoming” objects and defend myself in hand to hand combat with men 1/3 my age. Is it my fault that I should have to?


In 2005 I went to hear Jim Gilchrist speak at the women’s club in Garden Grove, never imagining a small army of them would show up. They did. They attacked people and threw things….and only a small army of cops kept them from killing us.

After than, in San Diego Roger Hedgecock tried organized a townhall event with legislators, authors, etc. to discuss the illegal alien issue and the public school cancelled out because of threats of violence from Mexican thugs. A lawsuit was filed in federal court and the school was ordered to reinstate the contract for the event. Only a small army of police prevented violence. Americans now have to pay thousands of dollars in attorney’s fees to get a court order to exercise basic 1st Amendment rights of free assembly and free speech and only then behind the protection of an army of police. This is what we have come to.

Reflect on the transformation of this country and understand that it is not the fault of any single individual.

I don't think any individual should blame himself/herself for the escalating violence or what happened at Maywood. The blame belongs squarely with the homicidal, stone age primitives who invaded our country and who have been ratcheting up the violence for almost 20 years. They mean to kill us and will do so if we let them. Stop kidding yourselves that they are just like us and only a few are bad apples.

THEY ARE ALL BAD APPLES. THAT'S WHY THEY'RE HERE!

LAPhil
11-30-2009, 04:18 PM
I was there in Maywood that August day in 2006 and helped coordinate the day's events, the only one responsible for getting Kele beaten up was Kele herself for being stupid enough to follow Chelene and one other female into a crowd of hundreds of frothing at the mouth, rabid Open border types. No one was supposed to go unescorted by police into the area they ventured into plus the fact that they arrived 90 minutes late compounded the situation. Anyone with half a brain would not have gone into that hostile crowd, but she/they did. After it happened there was much whining on Kele's part and no one was supposed to say anything about it due the increasing PC type attitude of SOS once Chelene gained influence. What Kele and the other two women did was incredibly stupid but they didnt want to admit that painful fact.

I myself had my car severely vandalized that day and it was miraculous that Cat Patrol, Black Cats in Ontario and I even made it out of Maywood.... and we didn't venture unprotected into enemy territory. Be that as it may, I spent no time whining about it.

Let's get real people. Time for all of us to take responsibility for our own actions and not be the perpetual victims nor should we be enablers of the "victim mentality", which is what Kele had. She screwed up, believed Chelene, got her ass kicked and then cried foul (to an extreme). Too bad so sad. We are all adults here so let's act like it. Actions have consequences as Kele found out that day when she acted the fool.
My, how you've changed.

The Waco Kid
12-01-2009, 09:23 PM
I've let no one off the hook as some have suggested here. These open border reconqista types are what they are which is vicious and without scruples so anyone who is stupid enough to walk into the fire has only themself to blame when they get burned.

Keep whining and feeling sorry for yourself Jean, see where it gets you. Just a hint since you don't seem too bright, the answer is nowhere.

I will leave now and you can go back to whining for all the good it does, I myself am taking action in my own community. Have a good time with your pity party.:cool:

Ayatollahgondola
12-01-2009, 09:43 PM
I've let no one off the hook as some have suggested here. These open border reconqista types are what they are which is vicious and without scruples so anyone who is stupid enough to walk into the fire has only themself to blame when they get burned.

Keep whining and feeling sorry for yourself Jean, see where it gets you. Just a hint since you don't seem too bright, the answer is nowhere.

I will leave now and you can go back to whining for all the good it does, I myself am taking action in my own community. Have a good time with your pity party.:cool:

I seem to remember that someone took pity upon you after that event because there was some complaining about your car getting vandalized, and so a payment was sent to you from SOS by Joe Turner to help get your car fixed up? Ah hell! no need to put a question mark there, is there.....
Geez! I'd like to call hypocrisy here, but I'm not sure that is the major underlying driver. Feeling left out maybe? If that's the case, there's a better way to re-introduce yourself than throwing rocks at people in the party. I think most of us would rather welcome you back as an ally than fight with you over what happened during the time the monarchy ran things here.

The Waco Kid
12-01-2009, 09:51 PM
Trust me, after all the money I donated to Joseph's SOS the money SOS paid for the vandalism to my car makes it all pretty much a wash, except SOS still came out on the plus side from my fund raising.

The Waco Kid
12-01-2009, 10:01 PM
Oh deary dear and as far as feeling left out I ask left out of what? A group of people stuck in the past perpetually complaining and droning on and on about what if? Well I don't want any part of that. Sorry, but the ship of what has happend has sailed and no amount of "if only I had done this or that" will not change anything. Kele got her ass kicked in Maywood and that is not nice but she unfortunately behaved incredibly irresponsibly by walking into that crowd when all knew we were in danger and the PD was there to escort us. Bad move on her part and she paid the price, I notice Chelene and the others with her didn't try to help her and kept on moving leaving her behind to be mauled. Tsk, tsk. Pretty shameful and low.

Ayatollahgondola
12-01-2009, 10:05 PM
Oh deary dear and as far as feeling left out I ask left out of what? A group of people stuck in the past perpetually complaining and droning on and on about what if? Well I don't want any part of that. Sorry, but the ship of what has happend has sailed and no amount of "if only I had done this or that" will not change anything. Kele got her ass kicked in Maywood and that is not nice but she unfortunately behaved incredibly irresponsibly by walking into that crowd when all knew we were in danger and the PD was there to escort us. Bad move on her part and she paid the price, I notice Chelene and the others with her didn't try to help her and kept on moving leaving her behind to be mauled. Tsk, tsk. Pretty shameful and low.

Well OK....Suit yourself.

Jeanfromfillmore
12-01-2009, 10:10 PM
I was there at Maywood the first and second times. The first time I was in Ohighlass's car which was extremely vandalized and she paid for the repairs herself. She didn't whine and expect others to fix her car. Her window was broken, tire slashed and graffiti was spay painted all over it. Yet she took care of it herself.

Sandy aka Waco Kid, you are angry that I removed one of your postings while I was director at the old SOS. That's it, the only time I've ever had any sort of connection with you. My god get over it. Every one of your posts have been to attack our members and especially pointed at me. What the hell did I ever do to you. I don't even know you. We met in Maywood and spoke one time. Maybe two sentences, that was it. I have never said anything bad about you or even thought of you. To me you really didn't exist. Is it because I've ignored you that you feel the need to continue to draw me into your hatred of the membership here. What has happened to you?

And the comment about not being too bright, now that's really kind of funny.

LAPhil
12-02-2009, 07:30 AM
Sandi, what's happened to you? You used to be such a fun, creative person whose posts I really enjoyed. Now you've grown mean and bitter for some reason I don't understand.

Rim05
12-02-2009, 07:56 AM
I was offered help to repair my pick-up but I told SOS I would take care of it my self. I had insurance but I figured it would be like a donatation to SOS if I took care of my vehicle, it was only a slashed tire.

usa today
12-21-2009, 08:46 AM
Don, I don't think it was a stupid comment at all, even looking back on it. Here's an example of what you said in your post: "I pray for the day when these monsters riot and what's left of the American people see them on TV as they pull white people out of cars and beat and kill them like in the Rodney King Riots in 1992. If that day comes soon, we will still have a chance to summon enough hatred and common sense to do what has to be done."

The whole tone of your post was as if these vicious, primitive Aztecs are representive of illegal aliens or even Mexicans in general, and that the only good ones will be dead ones. It just seemed a little over the top to me. We don't disagree about illegal immigration, but sometimes the rhetoric can be a bit much. Remember, this board is read by a lot of people outside of SOS and I wouldn't want those kinds of posts to considered representative of the thinking of our membership in general.

Phil
I had to get in on this one.

Who outside of SOS is going to see this?
If its a trolling reconquista or a supporter or maybe a "news source" looking for ammo to use against us?

Well the sad facts are it doesn't matter what is said here , even if its a lilly clean forum like alipac your still going to be a xenophobic racist in their eyes.

Thats part of whats hurting our movement , we feel we have to play the game by the rules , the opposition threw out the rule book and you all know that.

How many years now have we been playing the game by the rules? Where is our movement at the moment? Sure we can claim the high moral ground for sticking to the rules , but in the long run............What has it achieved?

I'm not asking anyone to change anything but just to take a look at what our final goal is and maybe to look at a new strategy. This one doesn't appear to be working very well.

Keep in mind that more amnesty bills are coming , and will keep coming, There has to be an ending or sooner or later our "holding actions" will fail.
Unless we start to play offense instead of defense , we are pounding sand.

Just to go on the record I believe Don has a 100% correct take on the problem , he recognizes it and is not sugar coating it.
JMO

admin
12-21-2009, 09:18 AM
Phil
I had to get in on this one.

Who outside of SOS is going to see this?
If its a trolling reconquista or a supporter or maybe a "news source" looking for ammo to use against us?

Well the sad facts are it doesn't matter what is said here , even if its a lilly clean forum like alipac your still going to be a xenophobic racist in their eyes.

Thats part of whats hurting our movement , we feel we have to play the game by the rules , the opposition threw out the rule book and you all know that.

How many years now have we been playing the game by the rules? Where is our movement at the moment? Sure we can claim the high moral ground for sticking to the rules , but in the long run............What has it achieved?

I'm not asking anyone to change anything but just to take a look at what our final goal is and maybe to look at a new strategy. This one doesn't appear to be working very well.

JMO

We follow our rules because we believe in them; Because it's the way we want to live and govern ourselves. If we stick to our rules and way of life, the consistency of that will be a beacon that attracts good people and provides evidence that we are not a bunch of rag tag warlords or banana republic in which people fear the political climate can turn against them in a heartbeat due to some current event. During times of turmoil, we stick to our values and rules. When we are criticized by others, we stick to our principles. When all hell breaks loose, we stick to the principles while protecting our ranks and welcoming those who will have seen that we, above all else, will adhere to our policies regardless of the temptation of anarchy.

usa today
12-21-2009, 09:32 AM
Keep in mind that this country was founded on anarchy

Ayatollahgondola
12-21-2009, 10:09 AM
Keep in mind that this country was founded on anarchy

How so? I rather believe it was founded by a declaration of independence from another government. That declaration was accompanied by a constitution that was fashioned around the rule of law, and amended with a bill of rights, not anarachy. I think you may be confusing rebellion or revolt with anarchy. The colonists were not predisposed to no rules. They rallied against unfair rules, and then further associated themselves with rules of their own making.

usa today
12-21-2009, 03:54 PM
Still all things considered

They revolted against the rightful govt of that time which was the King of England.

They were traitors , revolutionaries and anarchists against the rightful govt.

I said rightful, not just govt.

Is our situation much different than the people of this country faced under
English rule?

What choices for remedy did the colonists have?

What choices do we have?

usa today
12-21-2009, 04:01 PM
I want to go a bit further here

We supposedly have the right to petition our govt for redress.

Are they listening to us? doesn't appear they are

We are suppose to be equal , color , gender , race etc.

I could right a book about how we are not even close to equal , every part of our society is skewed in favor of minorities

One citizen , one vote?
Really ? and just how many illegal aliens are voting ? how else could some of these latino radicals win election ? people like Gil Navorrow or villiareconquiast ?

We are in the process of Balkinizing this nation , never mind the process , we are there

Obama was elected by white guilt and blacks that will vote black for no other reason.

We have come to a dead end in our country, the special interests are running the show , people now are only going to vote for those that promise them the most free goodies or are of the same race.

qualifed or not ,

This country is wacked out and most of you know it is , trouble is , there is no easy fix

Papoose
01-05-2010, 09:38 PM
Waco, you're being way too harsh and ridiculously judgemental regarding that situation. The people responsible for any attack were the people who did it. We shouldn't blame the victim. It's very easy to judge a situtation without having been in it. But of course I will concede- Yes, we were late and that did compound the situation. The parking situation was atrocious once we arrived, we ended up parking behind the opposition lines as the majority in our vehicle did not want to park in the parking lot closer to the actual event (thus closer to local people actually seeing what car we would have emerged from). No one was "following" Chelene in this instance.



I was there in Maywood that August day in 2006 and helped coordinate the day's events, the only one responsible for getting Kele beaten up was Kele herself for being stupid enough to follow Chelene and one other female into a crowd of hundreds of frothing at the mouth, rabid Open border types. No one was supposed to go unescorted by police into the area they ventured into plus the fact that they arrived 90 minutes late compounded the situation. Anyone with half a brain would not have gone into that hostile crowd, but she/they did. After it happened there was much whining on Kele's part and no one was supposed to say anything about it due the increasing PC type attitude of SOS once Chelene gained influence. What Kele and the other two women did was incredibly stupid but they didnt want to admit that painful fact.

I myself had my car severely vandalized that day and it was miraculous that Cat Patrol, Black Cats in Ontario and I even made it out of Maywood.... and we didn't venture unprotected into enemy territory. Be that as it may, I spent no time whining about it.

Let's get real people. Time for all of us to take responsibility for our own actions and not be the perpetual victims nor should we be enablers of the "victim mentality", which is what Kele had. She screwed up, believed Chelene, got her ass kicked and then cried foul (to an extreme). Too bad so sad. We are all adults here so let's act like it. Actions have consequences as Kele found out that day when she acted the fool.

Kele
06-06-2010, 07:34 PM
I was there in Maywood that August day in 2006 and helped coordinate the day's events, the only one responsible for getting Kele beaten up was Kele herself for being stupid enough to follow Chelene and one other female into a crowd of hundreds of frothing at the mouth, rabid Open border types. No one was supposed to go unescorted by police into the area they ventured into plus the fact that they arrived 90 minutes late compounded the situation. Anyone with half a brain would not have gone into that hostile crowd, but she/they did. After it happened there was much whining on Kele's part and no one was supposed to say anything about it due the increasing PC type attitude of SOS once Chelene gained influence. What Kele and the other two women did was incredibly stupid but they didnt want to admit that painful fact.

I myself had my car severely vandalized that day and it was miraculous that Cat Patrol, Black Cats in Ontario and I even made it out of Maywood.... and we didn't venture unprotected into enemy territory. Be that as it may, I spent no time whining about it.

Let's get real people. Time for all of us to take responsibility for our own actions and not be the perpetual victims nor should we be enablers of the "victim mentality", which is what Kele had. She screwed up, believed Chelene, got her ass kicked and then cried foul (to an extreme). Too bad so sad. We are all adults here so let's act like it. Actions have consequences as Kele found out that day when she acted the fool.

I had planned not to post in here at all....truthfully, I'm not sure I recognize the mindset of many of the folks I used to know.

But this is just too much.

I am responsible for getting my ass kicked by a bunch of rabid dogs?

You have no idea what happened that day. You were not there, behind the other side when the police DIRECTED us to park where we were unable to get to our side of the protest without walking through the goons. When they DIRECTED us to THEIR sidewalk. Nor were you there when I was forced off of that sidewalk and into the crowd. We were not 90 minutes late. We were 15 minutes late. We spent 20 minutes trying to figure out what to do. In the end, the police told us to walk down the sidewalk. I didn't even walk in with Chelene. I didn't follow anyone anywhere. I was walking with the guy that was filming. We both figured I'd be safe with him. I carried no flag. I wore no patriotic clothing. All I had to differentiate myself from everyone else was my blond hair and my prior association with SOS.

I was intentionally separated from the camera man by the "Death to the Minutemen" fat guy with the Mexican flag. By the time he could get around Raul, the crowd had already pushed me into the center and were whaling away at me.

You think I have a victim mentality? I'll tell you what I have. Three blown discs in my lower back from that little joy walk. Three of them--and constant pain. According to both of the doctors I've seen, I need surgery....but I'm just a full-time student with a kid to support. I have no insurance and since I'm not an illegal alien, my government certainly won't pay to fix it. I think that trumps your damaged car. I'm sure you had it fixed.

It's easy enough to talk crap about someone when you really have no clue what happened and that person is not around to defend themselves, isn't it? Nice to know that there are still folks in this organization, no matter how reorganized it is, who have no problem crucifying their own.

Makes me wonder what I thought was so special about this organization that I wanted to come back.

Ayatollahgondola
06-06-2010, 08:01 PM
I had planned not to post in here at all....truthfully, I'm not sure I recognize the mindset of many of the folks I used to know.

But this is just too much.

I am responsible for getting my ass kicked by a bunch of rabid dogs?

You have no idea what happened that day. You were not there, behind the other side when the police DIRECTED us to park where we were unable to get to our side of the protest without walking through the goons. When they DIRECTED us to THEIR sidewalk. Nor were you there when I was forced off of that sidewalk and into the crowd. We were not 90 minutes late. We were 15 minutes late. We spent 20 minutes trying to figure out what to do. In the end, the police told us to walk down the sidewalk. I didn't even walk in with Chelene. I didn't follow anyone anywhere. I was walking with the guy that was filming. We both figured I'd be safe with him. I carried no flag. I wore no patriotic clothing. All I had to differentiate myself from everyone else was my blond hair and my prior association with SOS.

I was intentionally separated from the camera man by the "Death to the Minutemen" fat guy with the Mexican flag. By the time he could get around Raul, the crowd had already pushed me into the center and were whaling away at me.

You think I have a victim mentality? I'll tell you what I have. Three blown discs in my lower back from that little joy walk. Three of them--and constant pain. According to both of the doctors I've seen, I need surgery....but I'm just a full-time student with a kid to support. I have no insurance and since I'm not an illegal alien, my government certainly won't pay to fix it.

It's easy enough to talk crap about someone when you really have no clue what happened and that person is not around to defend themselves, isn't it? Nice to know that there are still folks in this organization, no matter how reorganized it is, who have no problem crucifying their own.

Makes me wonder what I thought was so special about this organization that I wanted to come back.

First of all, welcome back

Secondly, what you read there was one person's opinion, and If you scan through the thread, pretty much a lone one that was not generally accepted by the rest of us.
Of course you belong here, and there's nothing to wonder about. As you have demonstrated, you stand up for yourself, and you have stood up for our agenda.
Whooo yooo kiddin'?
You are special, just like the lot of us:)

Kele
06-07-2010, 06:56 AM
First of all, welcome back

Secondly, what you read there was one person's opinion, and If you scan through the thread, pretty much a lone one that was not generally accepted by the rest of us.
Of course you belong here, and there's nothing to wonder about. As you have demonstrated, you stand up for yourself, and you have stood up for our agenda.
Whooo yooo kiddin'?
You are special, just like the lot of us:)

Thank you AG. I'm just not sure that I understand what's going on here anymore.

DerailAmnesty.com
06-07-2010, 07:03 AM
Kele, first off it's great to hear from you. I'm hoping you're still enjoying your Rocky Mountain environs. Secondly, nobody thinks you're responsible for having taken that horrible beating ... other than the person who typed out those remarks. I've been with SOS for years and never heard or read anyone intimate anything similar.

Some folks are just bitter and angry, Kele, and they spout nonsense on this board as a result of it.

Sam

Kele
06-07-2010, 07:11 AM
Kele, first off it's great to hear from you. I'm hoping you're still enjoying your Rocky Mountain environs. Secondly, nobody thinks you're responsible for having taken that horrible beating ... other than the person who typed out those remarks. I've been with SOS for years and never heard or read anyone intimate anything similar.

Some folks are just bitter and angry, Kele, and they spout nonsense on this board as a result of it.

Sam

Thank you for your kind words Sam.

I am nearly finished with my Rocky Mountain environment. My degree at the University of Wyoming will be complete by July 9. I'm headed back to So Cal for grad school come August.

What happened to me is three years old. I've moved on, I've learned to live with the physical repercussions and I've certainly dealt with the emotional repercussions. Everyone else should too. I blame no one other than the goonage and the uncaringly complicit police force for what happened to me. It's over, it's done, and it no longer needs to be a topic of discussion.

There are far more important things going on in California and the nation at large--like Obama's challenge to Arizona's employment law. There is where the focus should be.

PochoPatriot
06-07-2010, 09:01 AM
I'm headed back to So Cal for grad school come August.


With all due respect, you might want to rethink that. So. Cal. has traveled further down the sewer pipe than it was three years ago.

For my part, after what happened to me on Friday, I am planning on leaving California the first chance I get.

Ayatollahgondola
06-07-2010, 09:05 AM
With all due respect, you might want to rethink that. So. Cal. has traveled further down the sewer pipe than it was three years ago.

For my part, after what happened to me on Friday, I am planning on leaving California the first chance I get.

What happened?

LAPhil
06-07-2010, 09:08 AM
With all due respect, you might want to rethink that. So. Cal. has traveled further down the sewer pipe than it was three years ago.

Grad school is not something you just back out of at the last minute. I'm sure Kele will be fine, and I'm glad she's coming back. We may just run into each other again.

PochoPatriot
06-07-2010, 09:35 AM
What happened?

I just posted about it here (http://www.saveourstate.info/showthread.php?p=9914#post9914).

Rim05
06-07-2010, 10:57 AM
Good to hear from you kele. I have often wondered how you are doing. I am glad you have at least reached your education goal.

Have to give you a little bad (maybe) news. Last week I read where an Assemblyman in Sac had introduced a bill in the house and it passed and is waiting to see if it passed in the Senate. He wants the CA colleges and Universities to be able to deny admission on grounds of three things. The first was race, maybe age and demograpics. His last name is Hernandez. I will try and find it in the next couple of says. As my old song goes 'I am so busy I don't have time right now'.

Rim05
06-07-2010, 11:00 AM
I just found the article under California Schools. AG posted the article there.

Kele
08-06-2010, 09:27 PM
With all due respect, you might want to rethink that. So. Cal. has traveled further down the sewer pipe than it was three years ago.

For my part, after what happened to me on Friday, I am planning on leaving California the first chance I get.

Hi All:

Well, leaving Wyoming tomorrow morning. I really can't rethink grad school, SDSU is one of the only universities in the U.S. that offers my degree course. My undergraduate degree (University of Wyoming), G.P.A., and letters of recommendation will get me into SDSU, I have no doubts.

See you on the flip side!!!!!

Ayatollahgondola
08-06-2010, 09:59 PM
Hi All:

Well, leaving Wyoming tomorrow morning. I really can't rethink grad school, SDSU is one of the only universities in the U.S. that offers my degree course. My undergraduate degree (University of Wyoming), G.P.A., and letters of recommendation will get me into SDSU, I have no doubts.

See you on the flip side!!!!!

You'll probably be fine. If I didn't have hope for California I wouldn't be fighting for it.

Patriotic Army Mom
08-07-2010, 09:02 AM
Welcome back Kele!