I need an SOS fix

[rs232c]

Hello!

I guess I'm a newbie here but I have a question:


WHAT HAPPENNED TO SAVEOURSTATE.ORG???

I went to sign in...and had a heart attack!!

I see similar names here, is this the same site?

[PochoPatriot]

The names may be the same, but this is an entirely different site. With an entirely different philosophy of management.

[Ayatollahgondola]

Statement on that issue available here:

http://www.saveourstate.info/showthread.php?p=753#post753

[Jeanfromfillmore]

We're here to continue the goals we worked on at the .org site. But with the philosophy that 'no one needs to shut up if their idea is valid or a consensus agrees that their idea is not harmful to our goals.' There won't be that attitude of 'do as I say or get out' and we will stick to the proper guidelines of a non-profit. We will not become anyone's political tool and be guided to their political, religious or conspiracy theories, and will focus our efforts at moving our cause forward, not someones personal agenda. As far as this being a California organization, it is. We here in California have been hurt the hardest by this invasion and need to focus a strong unified resistance. Our goal is protecting what little resources we have left and directing those resources to our own California citizens. As to other state members we appreciate their ideas and input and we hope to show how they can organize in their state and lead by example.
This change to SOS.info is a positive change and will move us forward. About two years ago many good members began to feel disenfranchised by the SOS.org and the direction management was taking. We've come to a consensus of what and who created many of the problems at SOS.org and hope those disenfranchised members that left still have the spirit and spark and will join with all of us in getting things back on track.

[Rim05]

I do hope all who become members here will work for the good of this new forum and its members. 2008 was the beginning of the end for me at the old forum. People began to attack me for which political party I belonged to. Who I protested with, which forums I belonged to. I was a very active member in 05, 06, and 07. things began to get touchy in 08 but I had been in the swim of things too long to just up and drop out. It has been painful but life goes on. I am not as active as I once was but people should remember to respect fellow members.

[DerailAmnesty.com]

WHAT HAPPENED TO SAVEOURSTATE.ORG???


You're kidding. AZP didn't have the decency to issue a notice bearing an explanation to the remaining members before they closed shop?

Wow, real class.

The answer to your question: It went out of business. Joe Turner let the corporation be suspended when he intentionally failed to file necessary papers to keep the organization's corporate status. That was back at the end of June. Mike, Janet and Chelene had hoped to keep this info from most of the general membership and the organization was still holding itself out as a CA non-profit corporation. Holding itself out that way until, that is, AG pounced on the opportunity and filed to form Save Our State as a corporation. When that happened, Mike quickly yanked the representation about non-profit corporate status off the website (the jig was up).

Bottom line - for almost two months there was the real Save Our State (this one) and Joe Turner's former organization's remnants. Davi, who is far more patient a person than I would have been, decided to play nice and spent a considerable deal of time negotiating a peaceful termination of the former entity's activities.

Bottom line: There is one Save Our State and this is it.

[Eagle1]

WooHoo!!!:):):)

[Rim05]

DA/AZ you better get over to your home. ImInDisblief is really digging into you. :eek:

[DerailAmnesty.com]

Yeah, I noticed. The remnants of the Good Ship Nightingale seem to have washed into my little corner of the internet.

Oh well, my site is pretty much The Marketplace of Ideas. If I can endure a guy repeatedly telling me about my sister's death on Youtube, I'm not really going to sweat Mommy Dearest decrying my sexist tendencies.

By the way, as a point of accuracy, I think the term miscegenation better describes portions of my life than misogynist.

[rs232c]

Well I'm glad I found it again. I would have lost a large voice.

Back to Junior Member again.

If I understand this, I cannot post "I'm voting for X!", is that right?

[Jeanfromfillmore]

You can voice your opinion, but the organization cannot promote any political campaign or a political party. Our organization is to remain neutral where political parties are concerned. We have members who are Republican, Democrat, Libertarian, Constitution etc. and just because there may be more membership of one party than another, that does not condone the party with smaller numbers receiving less respect. We will show to all our members respect. Our goals and mission is to address illegal immigration, which has a negative impact on all of us, regardless of our political affiliation. The old SOS became very political and at times pitted members against each other and cohesiveness for the cause was affected. This does not mean that we must abide by some form of political correctness, not at all. But there is always more than one way to skin a cat as the saying goes, and we must respect others opinions as to their way of achieving our goals.

Thinking back I remember sharing a ride with one of our members who was very active in the movement, but he felt very strongly that business owners shouldn't be held responsible for knowing if an employee was an illegal. Most of us would surely disagree with his point of view. But this member did a great deal of work for the cause, and sadly because others disagreed with him on political issues (Chelene) and a few other issues, he is no longer active. It was a great loss to us. On another ride to a protest I had another member really jumped down my throat for even suggesting that both political parties are to blame for our mess. She is no longer with us, but may still be active somewhere else. I have enough commitment to the cause that I did not bough (not sure if that's how that is spelled) out, but if you had been there and had seen how I was attacked by this person, (and OL you were there) you'd know that a lot of people wouldn't take that abuse. We will not abuse each other because of a difference of opinion, period!
We all know that when something is written as opposed to being heard on the phone or in person, some of the emphasis is misunderstood or lost and the meaning can be misinterpreted. Please give each other the benefit of the doubt and try to clarify with respect. We all have invested our time and that is a value to all of us.

[Rim05]

We all know that when something is written as opposed to being heard on the phone or in person, some of the emphasis is misunderstood or lost and the meaning can be misinterpreted.


That part about written and spoken is so very true.